How does Brindi compare to other cases in HRM ? Do they kill all dogs with the same charges?
With thanks and gratitude to Beni for editing and refining the chart. And yes, Joan Sinden, you first alerted me to the information, I did thank you for that a long time ago, but I have no problem crediting you again (though I'm surprised you want me to).
A lot of work went into the first charts I compiled, and again into this one; the city posts separate info for each month and the dog cases are mixed in with all by-law offenses.
Too bad the city hasn't paid any attention to them. Neither has the press. I wonder if the judge will?
I suggest everybody read Beni's comment below. And check out the listing for one Sandra Coleman, who seems to have had serious problems with not one but two dogs. Neither muzzled or seized.
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Please free Brindi, 9 months is way to long she needs to be home with her mom. 9 months is animal cruelity. Do the right thing and stop this agonizing pain for all of us, but mainly Brindi and her mom.
ReplyDeleteThis is an extraordinary situation that requires extraordinary strength. As the saying goes, there is no arguing with stupid. And this case brought by the tin god is nothing less than stupid. However, the supporters are not stupid people, but the emotions unleashed by the tin god's stupidity was too much for some and they fell apart. Having been involved as a supporter for many months, I can attest to the difficulty. Some days it would be a whole lot easier to walk away and forget I ever heard of Francesca and Brindi. But I stand behind them because there is no reason Brindi or Francesca should be where they are. It's not often easy, but it is the right place to be.
ReplyDeleteSeveral months ago, I looked through the By-Law Prosecutions for dogs involved in attacks and found that they run quite the gambit of offenses. So I extended my search until it reached all available records on the Halifax website from January 2007 through July 2009. There is no case of such simple proportions that has been given the extreme sentence as Brindi has received. And there are more severe cases that have been settled for a lot less. This finding was so unsettling to me that I created an online database of these violations. You can see the results at the link Francesca provided.
Pay special note to the case of a dog that was charged with attacking a person without provocation. The charge was amended to owning a dog that runs at large. Or the dog with three counts of attacking another animal that paid a $300 fine. And there's the dog with 2 counts of attacking an animal and one count of fierce and dangerous -- on the 2 counts of attacking an animal without provocation, one count was withdrawn and one count resulted in a $222 fine; the charge of fierce and dangerous was withdrawn.
In all, the current database includes 63 cases; a few more recent ones have yet to go to trial. Euthanasia was ordered in one case in 2007.
This case is an incredible waste of time and money for what HRM is putting forward. At the least, it is overkill. The situation could easily happen to you and your dog by the same hapstance. So I urge you to get behind Francesca in her journey to save the life of her dog. She has already gotten the seizure By-Law removed -- something all of us could benefit from. Now let's help her get her dog back.
And to the supporter casualties -- I urge you to come back. This is certainly a hard place to be, but it is the right place. Remember back to when you first signed on... the goal is still the same, only the emotional drain has shifted. But how would you be after more than a year. We need to fix this situation and bring Brindi home to Francesca. And we want your support.
This is an extraordinary situation that requires extraordinary strength. As the saying goes, there is no arguing with stupid. And this case brought by the tin god from HRM is nothing less than stupid. The Brindi supporters are not stupid people, but the emotional toll is difficult. Having been involved as a supporter for many months, I can attest to the difficulty. Some days it would be a whole lot easier to walk away and forget I ever heard of Francesca and Brindi. But I stand behind them because there is no reason Brindi or Francesca should be where they are. It's not often easy, but it is the right place to be and the right thing to do.
ReplyDeleteSeveral months ago, I looked through the By-Law Prosecutions on the HRM website for dogs involved in attacks and found that they run quite the gambit. I extended my search until it reached all available records on the Halifax website from January 2007 through July 2009. There is no case of such simple proportions that has been given the extreme sentence as Brindi has received. And there are more severe cases that have been settled for a lot less. This finding was so unsettling to me that I created an online database of these violations. You can see the results at the link Francesca provided.
Pay special note to the case of a dog that was charged with attacking a person without provocation. The charge was amended to owning a dog that runs at large. Or the dog with three counts of attacking another animal that paid a $300 fine. And there's the dog with 2 counts of attacking an animal and one count of fierce and dangerous -- on the 2 counts of attacking an animal without provocation, one count was withdrawn and one count resulted in a $222 fine; the charge of fierce and dangerous was withdrawn.
In all, the current database includes 63 cases involving attacks (against dogs and/or people); a few more recent ones have yet to go to trial. Euthanasia was ordered in one case in 2007.
This case is an incredible waste of time and money for what HRM is putting forward. At the least, it is overkill. The situation could easily happen to you and your dog by the same hapstance. So I urge you to get behind Francesca in her journey to save the life of her dog. She has already gotten the seizure By-Law removed -- something all of us could benefit from. Now let's help her get her dog back.
I urge everybody to do whatever they can to help. We need to fix this situation and bring Brindi home to Francesca. And we want your support.
Thanks Laura. In fact Brindi has been in the pound for about 15 months now.
ReplyDeleteI hope people take time to glance at the charts of other prosecutions. I think it's hard to explain how other dogs were not muzzled or seized. A different yardstick was applied to them, apparently.
I agree with anonymous - I think it would be a great initiative for "Humane Halifax" to do a poll of people who've appeared on the bylaw prosecutions sheets - their names and addresses are on there, so it'd be pretty easy to find their phone numbers - and you could ask them the following questions so that you could compare them to your case to truly "compare and contrast" -
ReplyDelete1. How long have you had your dog;
2. How many times have animal control come to your house in the past year;
3. Has your animal been seized and kept at the pound while your case has worked its way through the courts;
4. Where did the alleged infractions take place - on or off your own property - and is there any discrepancy about that between you and your accuser;
If you had answers to those questions you could truly compare and contrast your case to those on the bylaw prosecutions sheets - and you'd certainly have a case to complain about - or not.
And it would certainly be a good use of "Humane Halifax's" resources - as opposed to it currently wasting Munical staff's resources trying to submit petitions to Regional Council that it knows full well can't be submitted - I don't know WHAT you were thinking on that one - http://www.halifax.ca/council/agendasc/documents/091110cai04.pdf
Joan, although with some different questions, we've been discussing doing a survey for a while. It's in the works.
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, I have a great idea for you.
We have somebody designing a web page right now.
How about releasing just one of the three domain names that you bought many moons ago? That way Humane Halifax could do a much better job.
I hear that you bought three names: humanehalifax.com, humanehalifax.ca, and humanehalifax.org.
We only need one of them. We really need full ownership, not borrowing rights. Just one. And you don't honestly need all three names to point to your blog, do you?
How about it?
PS We think the chart already shows plenty of information to show the sharp contrast Brindi's case from the others. There's more than enough to complain about there.
I'm posting without my name because I don't want you putting it in your blog.
Joan, Joan, Joan... you speak from such a small mind and closed heart for someone who claims a Buddhist belief. From your own website, you include this quote from Dalai Lama:
ReplyDelete"If you can, heal others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them."
And yet you speak with such malice and spite towards Brindi and Francesca. You look for what is wrong instead of how you can help to make it work.
In Buddhism, the purpose of life is to end suffering. The Buddha taught that humans suffer because we continually strive after things that do not give lasting happiness. Yet you would suggest Francesca should give up her lasting happiness, Brindi.
And let's not forget karma. Karma refers to good or bad actions a person takes during her lifetime. Good actions, which involve either the absence of bad actions, or actual positive acts, such as generosity, righteousness, and meditation, bring about happiness in the long run. Bad actions, such as lying, stealing or killing, bring about unhappiness in the long run.
You don't seem to know the facts of which you speak.. or you have chosen to purposely mislead others. Only you know. But your logic seems skewed and your intent unkind.
Does beating on someone who is down make you a better person, a wiser person? Does it bring you lasting happiness?